
Do you think McCain "Played" Obama to get the Rezko story out?
Total Votes: 29
There have been dozens of seeded articles on Newsvine and the general Media about McCain's 'senior moment" when he couldn't remember how many houses he owned.
The Obama Campaign and the bloggesphere immediately "piled on" stating that McCain was "elitist" and "out of touch".
The Obama campaign, sensing an opening, immediately ran an ad campaign , painting McCain as out of touch.
Did the McCain Campaign just "play" Barack Obama?
One of the biggest thorns in Obama's side has been his association with Tony Rezko.
Obama's house purchase has always been a source of controversy. In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that on the day of the closing, the wife of Obama's longtime friend and fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko closed on an adjoining lot that had been the estate's side yard.
The Obamas bought the house for $300,000 less than the asking price of $1.95 million, while Rezko's wife, Rita, bought the neighboring lot for the full asking price of $625,000. Rita Rezko later sold a portion of the undeveloped lot to the Obamas, enlarging the senator's yard.
The Obama campaign has avoided Rezko issue like a plague.
Tony Rezko already had been linked to a grand jury investigation involving public corruption. He was convicted of 16 counts in an influence-peddling scheme that reached the highest levels of Illinois state government.
The McCain campaign had said little of this as they were runningan avbove board campaign. Obama must have felt like he "dodged a bullet" as his association with Rezko painted him as not having good choices of friends.
So DID John McCain really "forget how many houses he owned?
It would appear not.. The McCain Campaign is now fighting back against questions about his house holdings by opening a new website focusing on past questions about Sen. Barack Obama's dealings with controversial Chicago businesssman Tony Rezko it was reported in Politico today.
The campaign was getting the site ready Thursday afternoon. McCain surrogates on television were being armed with facts about Rezko's relationship to Obama's purchase of his Chicago home in 2005.
Previewing the message the campaign will seek to drive, a McCain spokesman said: "In an attempt to make something stick, Barack Obama has re-aired his dirty laundry with convicted felon Tony Rezko that led to a highly questionable land deal. Rezko's dirty dealings are well-documented and his relationship with Barack Obama goes back 20 years."
So McCains "forgetfullness" about how many houses he owned gave the Obama campaign a way to pounce with a ad of McCain being out of touch, But that gave McCain a legitamate way to bring the Rezko scandal back to light.
Looks like they had everything ready and were just hoping Obama would jump. Now I dont play basketball but it looks like McCain faked him out and just made a 3 point mid court shot!
Interesting. The Rezko issue, like so many dealing with Obama, has been obfuscated, distorted, and misrepresented so frequently, it is unfortunately everywhere with no article putting the pieces thoroughly together apart from more Obama propaganda. So this election goes!
yep.. they forget he was cleared of wrong doign.. and even at 300k less it was stillt he going rate for market price..noone can show that obama did anythign for rezko and he isnt even one of thhose charged.. unlike the keating 5.
obama has NOT avoided the issue like the plague.. he has commented it on it frequently there are over 1400 posts on rezko on baracks own site.. so much for hiding from it.. as well as several posts from barack himself.
Two of the co defendans with rezno though are die hard hilary supporters who gave to her campaign.
none of them gave to barack.. despite being "assocaited"
and the gop has deeper ties to rezno than barack.. so if mccains wants to fight about hosues and rezno I say lett the dottering old fool.. he will quickly get slapped down by the gop like they did to him when he accidentally used the words "time table" instead of the gop approved "time horizon".
you do know rezno gave 3.5 milliomn to the gop?
who is Kjellander???
mcgovern? google that.
NY Times Apri 22, 2008:
A longtime political patron, Mr. Diamond is one of the elite fund-raisers Mr. McCain's current presidential campaign calls Innovators, having raised more than $250,000 so far. At home, Mr. Diamond is sometimes referred to as "The Donald," Arizona's answer to Donald Trump — an outsized personality who invites public officials aboard his flotilla of yachts (the Ace, King, Jack and Queen of Diamonds), specializes in deals with the government, and unabashedly solicits support for his business interests from the recipients of his campaign contributions.
The reality is that BHO is just another Democratic ward heeler from the South Side of Chicago, a professional politician proficient in playing the partisan game, HOPING that this audacity will get him elected US President. This is what we call the Audcaity of HOPE! And plain old pure partisan politics in Chicago, IL. Nothing new here, nothing to see, folks, be on your way! Where did he come from, where did he go? Cotten Eyed Joe wants to know! LOL
ward heeler
A ward heeler is a person who assists in a political campaign by canvassing votes for a party and performing menial tasks for its leaders.
I'm not sure what you meant by calling Obama a "ward heeler"?
well at least you cited the Chicago Tribune as a source, I asked someone on another thread about this and didn't get a response.....It certainly sounds fishy to me and I will not defend it except to say this:
In a buyer's market (after the housing bubble began to burst), it would not be uncommon for someone to sell a house at a substantially lower value than what market was, especially taking two things into account: 1. over-inflated/appraised value and 2. Over-under on the mortgage.....if the seller had to dump and run to avoid foreclosure....those are two very realistic possibilities.
As for Rezko and the adjoining lot + selling a portion....I WISH I could answer that one, but I have no clue....but just because HE was a crook doesn't mean that THIS was illegal or unethical.
Now, perhaps Obama is hiding something, perhaps he got a sweetheart deal by doing something personal for Rezko, or perhaps he just got lucky - I don't know....and unless more details come out, this story is going to die in the water....so McCain didn't exactly "play" Obama on this one, unless there's more dirt to be found. Still, the premise of McCain being a normal, everyday, average Joe is pretty much BS - no career senator is an average joe, certainly not one who owns 7 homes and is married to a beer heiress.
be careful what you wish for though...McCain has a LONG career that can be put under the microscope and he's not exactly spotless.....you might be right, hence why I said I'm not 'defending' it.
I have no illusions about Obama - I don't think he walks on water and he's not the second coming, but i do think he's better than McCain.....8 years ago, McCain WAS the better choice between him and Bush, but he was railroaded by the GOP...now, he's too old, too bitter and he's pandering way too much....I have lost all respect for him.
IT WAS NOT BELOW MARKET..
it was below askign price
obam was invetigated and they found nothing ip.. nada zilch.
how ever several goprs are caught up int eh scandal as usual.
Politicians must deal with many kinds of people in many different situations. McCain is putting campaign on a slippery slope since he has played in several questionable real estate deals. Skimming money off the top into his own accounts. The Republicans never offer proof for their accusations they just repeat the lies they've constructed with partial information. It's whisper campaign with the volume turned up.
So you're claiming Obama paid less than market price for his house, and then he paid more than market price for the extra parcel, after it had appreciated in a hot market.
This Rezko thing is much ado about nothing. You make it sound like the sale of both lots on the same day was some sort of sinister plot, when it was the seller who demanded that both lots sell together, thus Rezko's involvement.
Looks like they had everything ready and were just hoping Obama would jump. Now I dont play basketball but it looks like McCain faked him out and just made a 3 point mid court shot!
Now THAT gave me my first laugh of the day! Good for McCain. Can we call him MacDaddy now?
lol if you think that weak reply resonates with anyone but ,mccain supporters you are sorely mistaken.. but hey go for it.. cheer all you want.
Joules. First, thanks for your overly sarcastic and cutting reply to my little post. It was in no way meant to resonate with anyone, McCain supporters or not. Just my attempt at lightheartedness in this sea of folks who seem to think acrimonious criticism resonates with anyone but .... well .... people who like to spew acrimonious criticism!
There are folks who are so wrapped up in the campaign that they have become what many of us became in the sixties. Remember don't trust anyone over thirty. This time around it's don't trust anyone over forty. I guess forty is the new thirty.
Samantha: at least you have permission to cheer all you want!
Woo Hoo!
Thank G-d he gave me permission! ....otherwise, I might have to be quiet...that could be a problem.
lol like mcgovern isnt so far up hilaries but that he sees out her rose colored glassed.
Nah I'm not an obama supporter..
SAY WHAT??
yep not.
I'm against mcsame and the corporate shill hilary
I'm a constituionalist.. which is why I will vote for the constituional lawyer I don't know a whole lot about.
I do how ever know crap loads about mccain and hilary and I know better than to put either in the WH
I'm a constituionalist.. which is why I will vote for the constituional lawyer I don't know a whole lot about.
I do how ever know crap loads about mccain and hilary and I know better than to put either in the WH
While I don't agree with you, the above is an opinion I can respect because it was put in a way that was respectful and not a personal attack. Thank you.
The more of your articles I read, the more I become convinced that you are either a paid staffer for McCain or a shill for the campaign. Yeah, McCain played him alright - LOL. By the time the Obama Team gets done talking about McCain's involvement with and gifts from a convicted swindler named Charles Keating (that at least neutralizes the Rezko connection) and McCain's distorted perception of our economic condition, and McCain's 7 homes (at least 3 of which he didn't even remember), I don't think the McCain campaign will be feeling too tall.
This season is going to be ugly and your articles fit right in. Keep on spewing...
Anyone who has any reservation about Obama is an immediate turn coat and becomes Republican. I think that some of us older Americans voted for change before and it ended in tragedy and despair. As I get older I'm a little more circumspect and I look back at what I think were more civil times. There is no room for discussion on many threads it must be a litany of absolutely lock step adoration. Taking abuse every day isn't pleasant but I guess to partake of free speech I'll have to take it.
Just one of the Millions of fed up Moderate Democrats!
One look at your history of articles clearly indicates your bias.
I agree. The only articles no mcgovern ever seems to seed are those that take shots at the Democratic contender. I'm willing to bet donuts that if Hillary had gotten the nomination, he'd be screaming about the racism of the Democratic Party.
I'm just curious Mcgovern if you're going to vote Ind/Green party or not all since Obama is not your man.
Ok thanks for answering. I'll probably vote for him regardless of his VP choice as I trust his decision. We'll all know soon...
lol he says he is waitign to see the vp pick and yet I have seen him in mccain articels praising mccain.
anyways.. this debunks throughlyy thwat mcgovern is one of millions moderate dems
I also want to point out where he gets his nick from. Kinda odd a man who claims to be a dema nd wants to save the party from another mcgovern, would actively fight to have another mcgovern happen.
Good stuff No!
I don't know if this was a coincidence or not, I lean toward thinking it is though.
BO is getting too much out of it, for it to have been a McCain plan.
I understood that to be a reply to BO's statements this afternoon.
And that the JM ad will be out, to counter the ad BO got out today. Is the JM ad out already?
Saw BO's.
Okay I found it. Not bad.
As has been mentioned, I'm not sure McCain is in a position to slam Obama on questionable judgement.
After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
Probably not a game he should get involved in.
Pretty sad huh? They poke at each other while I have a hard time paying bills and worry about job security.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not.
There is no way McCain intentionally flubbed the number of houses question. Obama gets such a clear shot in under 30 seconds, tied to the "$5 Million means you're rich" remark, and that lasts. McCain has to describe this intricate land deal, which really only adds up to "huh? big deal." In order for McCain to hit a homerun, he has to spend 2+ minutes explaining. And if you're explainin', you ain't winnin'.
There is no way McCain intentionally flubbed the number of houses question.
Then it was the hand of G-d that made him forget. Take that haters!
The 5 mil thing really befuddles me. Why isn't that considered rich? Or is it, and you think it's TOO rich?
He said it as a joke, but seriously, that high of a threshold gives more people a break, so what's wrong with that?
As Obama is now saying "I guess that means that people making $3 Million a year are only doing O.K." Even if you lived in New York City, I'd say the threshold for "rich" is a lot lower.
The bottom line is that Old Mcbush at age 72 will naturally suffer from memory loss.So give him a break America when he fobs and fibs his lines."My friends thats is why he needs the democratic double agent Joey Lie-berman at his side at all times
McCain's flub is going to turn out to be Obama's undoing. Barry should have stayed quiet...now they are all talking about REZKO... which will lead to ACORN... which will finally uncover what a Chicago political hack Obama IS and HAS ALWAYS been
a man of no real accomplishment audacious enough to sell a very big lie to the 17 million people. But I think that is going to be about ALL he'll end up with in the election.
The Righteous Republicans motto is let the rich stay rich and let the poor "eat cake" .I say off with their heads or what is left of their brains.
John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet.
The media -- many of them card-carrying members of the John McCain Protection Society -- continue to paper over each new crack in the McCain-as-foreign-policy-authority myth: they love McCain, or at least the McCain they've created in their minds, and they're uncomfortable and embarrassed when the real McCain shows that he no longer has much to do with the character they've created.
John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president. When asked what his Christian faith means to him, his answer was a one-liner. "It means I'm saved and forgiven." Great scholars have wrestled with the meaning of faith for centuries. McCain then retold a story we've all heard a hundred times about a guard in Vietnam drawing a cross in the sand.
McCain was asked to define rich. After trying to dodge the question -- his wife is worth a reported $100 million -- he finally said he thought an income of $5 million was rich.
One after another, McCain's answers were shallow, simplistic, and trite. He showed the same intellectual curiosity that George Bush has -- virtually none.
John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 89
we really need a law bannign these poor students.. and notice ho many getting into these great colleges on the coattails of their parrents.
Anyoen think that goat herder from kenya got obama into harvard?
Looks like Obama actually had to work for it.
The McCain campaign had said little of this as they were runningan avbove board campaign.
As clearly demonstrated by this discussion.
lololol
yeah.. well see you can do that.. just like mccain is running a pubically financed campaign, that limits his spending... well except it DOES NOT LIMIT THE GOP and they can spend as much as they want to attack obama.
Oh, and by the way....please re-categorize this miscategorized editorial as "opinion".
Thank you.
I hope anyone reading the poorly researched article above will do "full" research. McCain has far more real skeletons than the media informs the citizens about. This guy was associated and admonished as a US Senator for his role in the largest and most costly government bailout in our history caused by one of his donors, Charles Keating. It was none other than George Bush who ran an ad in the 2004 South Carolina primary reminding citizenship about McCain's integrity and his listing as one of the "Keating Five".
Now despite his role in cleaning up election ethics, we find that he assisted one of his "innovators"(a person who donates over $250,000 to his campaign),Donald Diamond,to obtain land at Fort Ord for the same amount of money. Mr Diamond resold the land two years later ,with less than $1,000,000 of improvements,for $20,000,000.00.
McCain did not play Obama,it is the author of the article who is trying to play readers with spin based on an allegation by one candidate rather than giving the full facts and similar allegations for both candidates.
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